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[personal profile] agilebrit
Dear Mr. Prothero:

I'm electing a President, not a pastor. And I would a hell of a lot rather vote for someone who's been going to the Mormon church all his life than someone who's been going to Rev. Wright's church. At least the Mormon church is not going to scream "God damn America" at me. The LDS people may not share a few tenets of my faith (and yes, I have major problems with major points of their theology, so what), but they share my actual values.

The current occupant of the White House has proven over the last four years that he does not share my values. Therefore, he will not get my vote. And I'm not a "hypocrite" because you suddenly realized that your stupid paradigm was wrong. No, Mr. Prothero, rather, you have just proved that you know absolutely nothing about the people you're purporting to blog about. Of course, you work for CNN, so any credibility you thought you had was shot anyway, but this just puts the final nail in the coffin. "Your Take" is... well. Idiotic. Enjoy your wake-up call.

Regards,
[livejournal.com profile] agilebrit

I am amused by the fact that the liberal "wisdom" was that evangelicals would sit this one out because an OMG MORMON!*gasp* was running for President. Turns out, not so much, which I am just pleased as punch by. And now they're flailing all over themselves trying to figure out why.

Maybe if they, you know, actually talked to a few of us, they could figure it out. But that would involve getting icky Christian cooties all over them. Instead, they'll remain puzzled and rail about "hypocrisy" when it's really no such thing. It's just us voting our values.

PS: I really don't want to hear how my values are wrong, okay. I know that the vast majority of LJ and probably my flist disagrees with me on them. I don't feel like having the argument, so let's not.

Date: 2012-11-04 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ithildyn.livejournal.com
Well said!

Date: 2012-11-04 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
It's just awesome how the knee-jerk reaction is to scream "HYPOCRISY" rather than actually, you know, ask someone why they're voting the way they are. They'd rather go on the attack instead of make a bare pretense of trying to understand.

And they call us the intolerant ones.

Date: 2012-11-04 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensieg.livejournal.com
Exactly! Did you see the vid of the Romney rally at Red Rocks? Amazing! Definitely the best ad of the season.

Date: 2012-11-04 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
I'll just be happy when the ads are done. I am so tired of Silly Season. And feeling attacked at every turn.

Date: 2012-11-04 06:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aadler
It’s not surprising, actually. Those who have no religion — or whose ‘religion’ is liberalism/progressivism/socialism/statism — equate religious belief with bigotry and intolerance … and thus have no way of understanding how one set of bigots can agree with and support a competing set of bigots.

Are these same people equally mystified by how fervently evangelical Christians support Israel? It’s not that complicated. People who believe in something, even when those beliefs disagree, have more in common with each other than with people who believe in nothing.

(Except when, as with fundamentalist Islam, the belief system requires the conquest or butchery of anyone who isn’t a member.)

Date: 2012-11-04 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
Pretty much.

I'm just glad that it doesn't look like evangelicals are going to sit this one out like we did the last one. And I hope the Dems get a very unpleasant shock come Tuesday night.

I'm not counting on anything, though.

Date: 2012-11-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com
Yeah, one of my brother's friends is waffling, in spite of the fact that he really doesn't like Obama, due to the fact that Romney's a Mormon. Bro keeps telling him, "You're electing a president, not a religious leader."

Date: 2012-11-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
For me, if we're going to bring actual religion into it at all, it's the difference between a guy who goes to a church that loves America, versus a guy who goes to (or, if he's not attending anymore, he went to it for twenty years and apparently had no problem with it) a church that hates America.

It's really not that hard.

Date: 2012-11-04 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalescence.livejournal.com
Well done!

Date: 2012-11-04 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] werewolf-hacker.livejournal.com
I'm thinking about making an "icky Christian cooties" icon, but until I have one, let's just have one of... some guy. Possibly praying. (This is me, in case you missed the memo. :D )

Date: 2012-11-05 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseaponi.livejournal.com
Honestly, the Mormon sensibility of simple living and emergency preparedness is _exactly_ what this country needs. Things like the actual nature/existence of the Trinity are not exactly going to come up in the course of governing the country.

Date: 2012-11-05 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
Pretty much this. I'm not electing a spiritual leader, I'm electing a President. He doesn't need to share my faith to get my vote, just my values.

Date: 2012-11-05 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimhines.livejournal.com
My only comment would be to point out that when you're talking about the liberal "them," the fact is, "liberal" and "Christian" are not mutually exclusive.

Date: 2012-11-05 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agilebrit.livejournal.com
*headdesk* That is a good point, and I will try to remember not to commit the Sin of the Broad Brush going forward. "Christian" is not a monolith any more than "Mormon" is--look at Harry Reid vs Mitt Romney, for example.

Or "woman" for that matter. I have more in common, politically, with Mitt Romney than I do with my own mother.

Sorry about that.

By the way, it was fantastic to meet you at ChiCon. :)

Date: 2012-11-05 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimhines.livejournal.com
It's one of the (many) things that's been making me cranky this election cycle, from both sides. And yet we're getting pounded with those messages so much, it's hard to keep it from slipping into our brains, you know?

(And then you have the lovely man last night who was explaining to me why he wasn't a Republican, because he wasn't racist, and he wasn't a Democrat, because he wasn't a moron. I guess if you're going to annoy people, you might as well try to be all-inclusive about it?)

And likewise! :-)
Edited Date: 2012-11-05 07:41 pm (UTC)

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