Wank from bad_rpers_suck

[agilebrit]

Found this generous amount of splooge on Fandom Wank; absolutely priceless. Short excerpt follows.

youlanda sez:
The "fan fiction" stuff you mention in book stores is different from stuff you've seen online--It's actually authorized, written with permission. The writers are probably paid to do it. It's very much the same as hiring an artist to do a book or CD cover. Big difference.

She also repeatedly and annoyingly uses the word "rape" to describe fanfiction. Three times in one post, in fact. I felt the intense need to bitchslap her just for that, but you can't post in that community unless you're a member, so my response to her will have to stay here and get read by just a few.

So, agilebrit responds (although youlanda will probably never see this):
Yeah, hey, I'm actually read some of that "authorized, written with permission, paid-for" fanfiction. I spent some of my hard-earned money on a Buffy novel, and an Angel novel. And you're right. I noticed a big difference. The paid-for stuff? SUCKS. Royally. Horrible writing, wooden characterization, and crappy plotting. The fanfiction I find online, for free, is far superior (from the right authors) than the birdcage liner I bought in the bookstore.

And since I just got back from WriterCon not that long ago, I can say with some authority that fic writers in the Buffyverse have the wholehearted endorsement and support of the creators. They are honored and flattered that their characters have touched us so much that we want to continue to write stories about them--even long after the shows have been cancelled. Jane Espenson sez so. So there. [sticking out tongue childishly]

Also? Your repeated use of the word "rape" to describe fanfiction is extreme, histrionic, and makes you look like a total freaking idiot. I have friends who were sexually assaulted, although it's never happened to me, and I resent the bloody hell out of you trivializing their horrible experiences that way. So, stop it. Dumbass.

Comments

As someone who enjoys good writing...

[midnightsjane.livejournal.com]

May I just say "Phffft" to this person. Someone has said that there are only 5 original stories; they just get told over and over from different POVs. For someone to claim that she is not influenced by others is just too silly for words. I agree with you that most of the "authorized" Buffy/Angel fic sucks. I have many of the books, bought to satisfy my craving for Jossverse stories, and few of them filled the bill as well as the many finely written fanfics I have read. I don't buy them anymore. I'd rather read stories by people like you. Keep on writing, and ignore Dumbass.

Re: As someone who enjoys good writing...

[agilebrit.livejournal.com]

*kicking Muse* If the Muse would get off her lazy arse and give me something, I'd be writing right now. People like her are just stupid ignoramuses uninformed. However, she's not willing to learn, and her extreme language makes her look quite foolish.

[vampirepuppet.livejournal.com]

I agree about the Buffy and Angel novels pretty much sucking. I first read some last year when I was stuck in the hospital overnight desperate for distraction. Believe me, if I hadn't been basically unable to walk, I would have gotten up and traveled up and down the halls looking for magazines to flip through instead. The books were THAT bad. My brother (who hadn't yet discovered fanfic) had bought quite a few of them, and he said some of them were decent quality. I tried them again. Didn't especially like any, and disliked the rest to various degrees. I have found plenty of fanfic that's better than the novels.

The cavalier usage of "rape" also pisses me off. Kind of like how throwing around words like "Nazi" and "Hitler-like" pisses me off (unless, of course, one is referring to actual Nazis, the Holocaust, etc.).

[catvampcrazines.livejournal.com]

Okay, I only read the excerpt and was going to read the whole bs she posted, but I decided better not for my freaking sanity. *screams* ugh. thankyou for putting a response up. wow, such damn ignorance!
Thankyou thankyou thankyou for speaking your mind hun and supporting us fanfic writers, defending our verse here.

wow, I'm very much grr. Off to go breath. yes, I second the stop it dumbass to her.

*hugs and squeezes and snuggles to you!!!*

[agilebrit.livejournal.com]

*sigh* The only response I have to her, unfortunately, is here. Although if I think about it a bit more, it might make a good topic for fanficrants. I'm not going to invade someone else's LJ and rant at her there, and bad_rpers_suck has a "friends only" comment thing going.

I mean, if Jane Espenson thinks we're "real writers," then who the hell does this 22-year-old furry "artist" think she is to tell us we're not?

[alliterator.livejournal.com]

Okay, this really pissed me off. There was one poster, amber_and_ash, who was defending the legality of fanfic, stating the "fair use" clause of the Copyright laws and the morality of fanfic as well, stating how many authors have copied and borrowed from others (like Shakespeare) and you know what yolanda replies? "But fan fiction writers are stupid kids with hormone problems and bad English skills."

If I could, I would kick yolanda's ass. The writers I met at Writercon probably have more English skills in their pinkie fingers then in yolanda's whole body. Hell, HonorH used to be an English teacher. And "stupid kids with hormone problems"? Hello, what the hell does that have to do with anything! FIrstly, their not. 99% of the writers at Writercon were above the age of 20. Secondly, you mean its okay for "real" writers to do it, but not us? Because somehow the law is selective? Huh?

Shute up, yolanda. Just shut up.

[alliterator.livejournal.com]

And the one time I want to spell things right, I end up getting things wrong. It should be "Shut up, youlanda." No shutes.

[alliterator.livejournal.com]

At least, it seems the other posters are pointing out how wrong she is and how her overreaction.

[agilebrit.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Is it just me, or is it rather ironic and comical that a person who comes up with the following absolute gems of coherence:

Stolen worlds from popular tv/anime/book/movies are easier for people to use because they may already know something but at the same time those players looking for an 'easier' universe might also be lazy and second rate whereas a completely original universe might attract highly talented and creative types such as artists, writers, musicians, and programmers. I'd like to buy a comma, Vanna. And possibly a period as well.

They can all so tell when someone else chooses to barrow my work, either literally or in style. That should be also, and borrow, dumbass.

...Shakespear...

...dares to lump all fanfic writers in as "stupid kids with hormone problems and bad English skills." Stand down, girl. I'm nearly twice your age. And while I may have hormone problems at this particular time of the month, I'm not stupid, nor do I have bad English skills.

At least she's childfree. She won't be reproducing.

[alliterator.livejournal.com]

And what is with her constant use of the word 'rape'? To quote Inigo Montaya: "I don't think that word means what you think it means."

[agilebrit.livejournal.com]

I know. It makes her sound like a total hysterical idiot. Maybe she thinks she's making some kind of point, but the only point she's actually getting across is that she takes herself and her little Furry cartoons way, way too seriously.