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agilebrit ([personal profile] agilebrit) wrote2015-04-12 02:34 pm
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So, let me get this straight...

Say, for the sake of argument, I write a story that gets published this year. (And, yes, I do have a specific story in mind for this little mental exercise.) Say also that it gets enough buzz to actually be nominated for an award.

I'm really proud of this story. I worked hard on it. I think it says important things and deals with important issues, while still being a fun read (for certain values of "fun"). It's one of the best things (if not the best thing) I've ever written. I'd be thrilled if it was nominated.

But. Suddenly, I'm supposed to turn this nomination down (on a story I adore, remember) because someone I have no control over put me on a slate? I'm supposed to think my nomination is "tainted" somehow, and should have an asterisk next to it?

You know what, how about: no, fuck that.

And if it happens (hahaha!), I'd be super happy if folks would let me be excited about it for five whole seconds before exploding in rage.

[identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com 2015-04-16 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Who cares? The Indians and Pakistanis might care, since most of them live in India and Pakistan, rather than North America or Europe or Australia. And actually, in Britain, the greatest threat to Indian Hindu immigrants is currently Muslims, rather than white nationalists.

Your assumption that hostile whites are always a "greater" enemy than hostile non-whites is implicitly based on profoundly racist assumptions of white superiority, even supremacy. Right now a Filipino, for instance, must logically worry far more about the Moros and the Red Chinese than about the Ku Klux Klan or the Neo-Nazis.

You're not talking about Rachel freaking Corrie, are you? The idiot who got herself killed by sitting down in front of an operating, armored bulldozer whose driver had only a limited field of view, because she sympathized with the Nazi-like Hamas against Israeli Jews because they were Jews?

[identity profile] yamamanama.livejournal.com 2015-04-16 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not talking about India and Pakistan, I'm talking about white dominated countries, and if the Filipinos want to side with the white nationalists against Moros and Chinese, then they are worse than fools.

[identity profile] jordan179.livejournal.com 2015-04-16 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you're talking about white dominated countries, because to you -- convinced as you are that only whites are "really real" -- countries dominated by non-whites are never going to control their own destinies anyway. The degree of blindness you manifest to your own racism is truly amazing.

The Philippines are objectively threatened by the Moro Muslim rebellion, and by the Red Chinese military. They are not, for the most part, threatened by white racism.

You're also assuming that white racists have to hate all "non-white" groups equally. What prevents, for instance, a white racist group from considering Filipinos okay, but hating Arabs? Or, if bigoted on the basis of religion rather than race, hating Pakistani Muslims but having no problem with Hindu Indians?

And why, in those cases, would the Filipinos or Indians then logically side with those who want to KILL them against the white racists or Christian bigots who don't want to kill them?

You are looking at non-whites and non-Christians as just so many pawns to be moved in your political and diplomatic games, and ignoring that they are themselves PLAYERS.

[identity profile] yamamanama.livejournal.com 2015-04-16 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Once again, I'm not talking about their home countries, I'm talking about Filipinos abroad, like Drow, who are siding with people like Vox Day.

Nothing prevents white nationalists from thinking Filipinos are pretty ok but supporting genocide on Arabs or thinking Hindu Indians are cool but hating the Pakistanis. But the Filipinos and Indians shouldn't side with them. What are the white nationalists going to say once all the Pakistanis and Arabs are gone?